Díli, 05 Jul (Lusa) - O chefe do alegado "esquadrão da morte", que diss e ter recebido ordens para eliminar adversários políticos do ex-primeiro-ministr o Mari Alkatiri, afirmou hoje à Lusa que vai entregar as suas armas ao Procurado r-Geral da República no próximo dia 11.
Contactado telefonicamente pela Lusa, Vicente da Conceição "Railos" afi rmou que as armas serão entregues numa cerimónia nas montanhas, em Leutala, 50 q uilómetros a ocidente de Díli.
"Vou cumprir as ordens do Presidente Xanana Gusmão para que as armas na s mãos dos civis sejam recolhidas, mas as armas que vou entregar são provas de u m crime, são as armas que recebi para matar os adversários políticos de Mari Alk atiri", acrescentou.
Veterano da luta de resistência contra a ocupação indonésia, Vicente da Conceição "Railos" denunciou o ex-primeiro-ministro Alkatiri como tendo dado or dens ao ex-ministro do Interior Rogério Lobato para distribuir armas ao seu grup o, composto por 30 a 35 efectivos.
Nas declarações que fez hoje à Lusa, "Railos" confirmou ter-se deslocad o terça-feira a Díli, mas que não se encontrou com o Presidente Xanana Gusmão.
"Fui entregar um documento a dar informação que vou entregar as armas", afirmou.
Na sequência da entrega de armas, militares australianos vão ficar em L eutala para garantir protecção a "Railos" e aos seus homens, porquanto são teste munhas do processo em investigação sobre as alegadas ordens de distribuição de a rmas.
Depois de ter acusado Alkatiri e Lobato, o Ministério Público abriu um processo para inquirir eventuais responsabilidades do ex-ministro do Interior Ro gério Lobato, que aguarda em casa o desenrolar das investigações.
O Ministério Público também notificou Mari Alkatiri para ser ouvido no âmbito do mesmo processo e a audição chegou a ser marcada para sexta-feira passa da, mas foi adiada a pedido do ex-primeiro-ministro.
Mari Alkatiri tem negado repetidamente as acusações e garantiu terça-fe ira, em declarações à Lusa, que não utilizará a imunidade de que goza como deputado ao Parlamento Nacional para se "esquivar à justiça".
"Quero provar a minha inocência logo na primeira audiência. Não me vou esquivar à justiça, escudando-me no estatuto de parlamentar", disse Alkatiri, qu e será defendido pelo advogado português José António Barreiros.
Alkatiri demitiu-se do cargo de primeiro-ministro a 26 de Junho, tendo sido substituído na coordenação do governo pelo ministro dos Negócios Estrangeir os e da Defesa, José Ramos Horta.
Entretanto, o major Alves Tara, um oficial das forças armadas timorense s que abandonou em Maio a cadeia de comando, e que é o coordenador-geral da auto denominada Frente Nacional Justiça e Paz (FNJP), disse também hoje à Lusa que en tregou já as armas que dispunha a militares australianos, numa cerimónia realiza da no centro de Gleno, 40 quilómetros a sul de Díli.
Contactado também telefonicamente, o major Alves Tara afirmou que entre gou nove armas automáticas e cerca de duas mil munições, "cumprindo ordens do Co mandante Supremo das Forças Armadas, o Presidente Xanana".
"Mas não estou contente. Ainda há grupos de civis com armas, que não fo ram devolvidas", criticou.
Efectivos militares australianos vão manter-se em Gleno para garantirem protecção ao major Tara e aos seus homens.
A FNJP patrocinou as manifestações anti-governamentais realizadas na pa ssada semana em Díli.
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Uma cerimónia para entrega de armas de grupos civis à margem da lei?!
Cerimónia?!
Concerteza com a presença do Presidente da República e os infractores da lei a serem condecorados com honras de Estado.
Foi ultapassado em muito o limite do ridículo!!!!
"são as armas que recebi" - Railos
Recebeu?!
Se as recebeu há muito que devia estar preso!
O que está a fazer o Ministério Publico?!
Também vai estar presente na cerimónia?!!!!
"são as armas que recebi" - Railos
Recebeu?!
Se as recebeu há muito que devia estar preso!
O que está a fazer o Ministério Publico?!
Também vai estar presente na cerimónia?!!!!
E vai haver "Cocktail" no final da "cerimónia"?
Ah, ah, ah, ah - rir é só rir!
Qual é data das medidas de emergência de entrega IMEDIATA de armas decretadas pela Presidência?
Mas não têm mesmo a noção do ridículo?!
Railos não se encontrou com o Presidente mas diz estar a cumprir as ordens do Presidente Xanana.
Em que ficamos?
Railos vai entregar as armas ao Procurador-Geral no dia 11.
Recebeu alguma notificação do Ministério Público para o efeito e a marcar dia e hora?
Ou é o Senhor Railos que dá ordens ao Procurador-Geral e marca dia e local?
Já ninguém acredita nesse país!
Pobre Povo Timorense!!
Pois não convinha entregar as armas antes da manifestação não fossem elas serem precisas.
Que palhaçada!
Ó Senhores da Igreja rezai por vocês e pelos vossos dirigentes para que Deus vos devolva a razão,
Digger sent home from East Timor for firing over crowd
Email Print Normal font Large font Ben Doherty, Canberra
July 6, 2006
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AdvertisementAN AUSTRALIAN soldier who fired shots over the heads of protesters at a pro-Mari Alkatiri rally in East Timor has become the sixth digger ordered home for a firearm offence.
The soldier, who cannot be identified, fired four rounds from his Minimi machine-gun above a crowd in Dili that was protesting in support of the deposed prime minister on June 30.
Witnesses said about 5000 people were gathered at the pro-Fretilin party rally on the Dili waterfront outside the Governor's palace when the shots were fired. The crowd scurried in fright, but nobody was injured.
Both deposed Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri and President Xanana Gusmao spoke at the rally. It is believed the shots were fired as Mr Gusmao was speaking.
The soldier was formally charged with negligently discharging his weapon and faced a disciplinary hearing in Dili on Sunday, which ordered he be sent home for "retraining".
The Defence Department would not reveal the exact charges, nor the punishment.
"The incident has been investigated and disciplinary action has been taken against the soldier involved," the department said.
The soldier was part of a detachment providing security for the protesters.
"ADF personnel reassured the protesters that the situation was under control and that they were not under threat," the department said.
The soldier is the sixth Australian from the Joint Taskforce serving in East Timor to be sent home for a firearm offence, either a negligent or unauthorised discharge.
Details of those offences are not known.
Another soldier, an artillery officer known as "Gilly from Timor", was sent home last month for revealing details of his platoon's activities in an email sent to friends on a Defence account. Fifteen soldiers and one sailor have been returned for medical reasons.
Australia has nearly 2000 troops in East Timor, serving alongside Portuguese and New Zealand soldiers and police. Troops rushed to Dili last month after the sacking of nearly a third of the nation's army sparked rioting in and around Dili.
And political turmoil is continuing, with Mr Alkatiri resigning last week and likely to face criminal charges of sanctioning the arming of militia hit squads.
Meanwhile, gangs, many armed with machetes, remain a security threat in Dili.
Former Australian defence force chief General Peter Cosgrove has backed Australia's peace-keeping efforts in East Timor, saying military intervention was necessary to quell rioting.
General Cosgrove, who commanded the Australian-led intervention force into East Timor in 1999, said troops, rather than police, were needed on the ground.
"While the army would prefer that they weren't involved, of course they can do those sorts of jobs," he said.
"The immediate effect was to start to return confidence to the people not involved in street violence and to push the street gangs off the streets. Really, that was what was needed at that time."
He said Australia had an obligation to assist East Timor and other troubled countries in the region wherever possible.
What is really happening in Timor? Forum July 6
Thursday, 6 July 2006, 8:08 am
Press Release: AID Watch
Media Release: July 6, 2006
What is really happening in Timor?
Public Forum Thursday July 6
Recent events in Timor have been unsettling and traumatic for the newly independent nation. The national police force has dissolved, houses and offices have been burnt and looted, thousands of people have been displaced and the government is in the process of replacing the former Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri after allegations were made that he helped arm civilians.
Australian observers witnessing the tumultuous events of the last two months have raised a number of questions: Why has this happened? What role has Australia and the rest of the international community played? How does East Timor move forward from here? What is the best way to help East Timor and its people in the wake of such confusing and traumatic events?
Union Aid Abroad – APHEDA, AID/WATCH and Unions NSW will be presenting a public forum on East Timor, Thursday July 6 at the Sydney Trades Hall Auditorium from 12:00pm - 2:00pm. The forum, titled “What Happened? Why? Where to Next?” will be an opportunity to shed light on some of these issues.
“East Timor has been in a state of uncertainty since March this year. It’s been very difficult to understand what is actually going on,” Thushara Dibley from Union Aid Abroad – APHEDA. “The forum is an opportunity for people to listen to speakers actively engaged in East Timor and to participate in open dialogue over the future implications of these complex events .”
Speakers at the Forum:
Elisabeth Lino de Araujo – Union Aid Abroad – APHEDA East Timor
Dr Tim Anderson - long time observer of East Timor from AID/WATCH,
Peter Jennings - Executive Officer from Union Aid Abroad – APHEDA,
Diana Lobo – member of the East Timorese community in Sydney and
Tim Brunero - Union Activist and supporter of East Timor.
“TIMOR - What Happened, Why and Where to Next?”
12 – 2pm, Thursday July 6
Sydney Trades Hall Auditorium,
4 Goulburn Street, Haymarket (Chinatown)
ENDS
what is happening in timor-leste is that everyone is bypassing the judicial branch of the state and president xanana seems to see no problems with it..... well xanana was the first to undermine this organ anyway..... today everyone thinks xanana is the judge and jury. anything xanana says doesnt deserve scrutiny and is taken as fact. with a president like this who needs a legal system or a judicial branch? and president xanana and ramos-horta seem happy enough for this to go on. someone needs to call their attention on this because this is not healthy for the future of a democratic timor-leste. the last person to have exercised this type of role was president suharto.
This is a message for The information tech. Department "Can you please remove Xanana's picture from the goverment website... it makes me sick." he might be charismatic....(doubt it)... but his a bloody moron.
Só para mudar de assunto
A todos vocês, impolutos moralistas de inatacável fibra de virtude que são. Falemos de outra coisa.
Que tal da distrital de Lisboa do PSD? Assim. Só por ser, sem ser mais nada.
Oh! José Manuel! Traz-me um café e um caracol, por favor...e uma água,
é claro.
Com donnaire
you people feel sick because President Xanana had the conviction to put a stop to the despotic practices of your parties government. Just admit it. Now gone is your dream of ruling for the next 50-100 years as your beloved Alkatiri used to boast openly.
Although everyone knows that he is utterly arrogant, such statement including "if fretilin looses there will be bloodshed" were clear demonstrations not just of arrogance but also that alkatiri and fretilin were willing to do anything, including sheding people's blood to have things go your way.
For that you should all be ashamed. The East Timorese are lucky to have Xanana as the President. And although you made all effort to draft a constitution that stripped all power from the President you could never have taken away the moral authority and the great respect that most Timorese have for Kay Rala Xanana Gusmao.
Alkatiri's government was a malignant tumour that had to be removed and was removed.
"Lulik no Matebian sira, hadér ba, hodi haré povo ida né! Ruin nebé namkari lemorai, hamrik fali ba, Ran nebé nakfakar lemorai, hamutuk fila ba, hodi haré sira nebé hakarak estraga povo, hakarak halo povo terus beibeik, hakarak halo povo mate beibeik. Hatudu imi nia-an ba, hatudu imi nia kbit ba! Imi nia oan ha’u, mak né, sadik daudauk imi, hodi tau matan ba Povo né, hodi liberta tiha Povo né husi ema hamrok-ran nia okos." (Presidente KR Xanana Gusmao)
In response to Anonymous: 2:23:59pm
The dream was not for FRETILIN to rule for 50-100 years. The dream is for a peaceful East Timor.
I am a FRETILIN supporter and I will be the first one to admit that East Timor needs stronger opposition parties to challenge FRETILIN. The challenge to FRETILIN's politcal strength needs to come from the political parties, not the President. The President's actions are setting an unacceptable precedent in Timor Leste.
The problem in East Timor is that the opposition parties aren't putting any policies out there that will alleviate the poverty in the country. Point to me the strategic plan that they have outlined to improve the country, what they plan to do with oil revenues and what they plan to do with the health system. The opposition parties can't just get behind the President to hide their deficiencies.
From my observations, all the opposition parties do is spend there time criticising the government. They say they are for the people and that they understand the people, but what is exactly is their plan to bring East Timor out of poverty and maximise the use of its resources? How are they going to solve illiteracy? Seriously, please point me to a place where I can see those policies. I am keen to see what the vision of the Opposition Parties is for East Timor and how they are going to achieve it.
The situation in Timor is alarming to say the least.
Although Democracy in Timor is being tested, I believe Timor will overcome this traumatic episode of political crisis. Ironically elections and democracy will be the only real solution to the issue.
If allegations against Mari do not turn into a conviction then there are a number of individuals in Timor Leste who will be under scrutiny. Maybe he will again be Prime Minister one day should FRETILIN places confidence in him again.
Xanana and Horta have taken some obscure and politically risky decisions. Rather than focusing on the disarmament and containment of rebel soldiers and confining the FFDTL to their barracks, they focused on the removal of a legitimate Prime Minister. It was though that with the removal of the Prime Minister the IDP’s would return home, and rebuild but this has not happened because the security situation is in doubt as there are still many weapons unaccounted for.
Rather than resolving the security crisis Xanana and Horta have through their brash decisions created a complex Political Crisis which looks like only an election will resolve.
Unless Xanana and Horta can quickly resolve the Security crisis then a solution is far from over. Improvements are being made with the handover of weapons by “rebel forces” but if all the weapons are unaccounted for or there is no confidence that all weapons have been handed over then the climate of fear being felt by the IDP’s in Dili will continue and we will see many people remain in camps for some time.
The creation of an interim government before the eventual elections in 2007 is paramount for the development of Timor Leste. Any reason or attempts to withdraw promises of elections in 2007 will cast greater doubt on the capacity of the President to establish security, this is potentially damaging as one of the criticism of the previous Government under the leadership of the Mari was its inability to provide security.
In terms of criticism of the Government and reflecting on the forced resignation of Alkatiri, there are countless inconsistencies and allegations.
Allegation 1: Government failed in its duty to provide security = call for the resignation of the Prime Minister
Allegation 2: Prime Minister called for the intervention of the FFDTL in 28 April without consultation with the President (resulted in the death of 5 protesters) = (i) Unconstitutional Prime Minister should be removed, Government should be removed (ii) Alfredo’s insistence that Prime Minister “Criminal” should because of 5 deaths (Alfredo claims that Prime Minister gave explicit orders to TC Lere of the FFDTL to put down any forms of insurgency, that resulted in killing of five protesters at Tasi Tolu).
Allegation 3: FFDTL killed 60 people, claimed by Tara and Salsinha, unsubstantiated = Prime Minister should resign or be removed to face court.
Allegation 4: The Prime Minister ordered the arming of civilians = Prime Minister should resign
Allegation 5: The Prime Minister failed to stop his former interior minister, Rogerio Lobato, from arming and directing a secret hit squad designed to enforce "security" ahead of a national congress: Paulo Martins and Rai Los alleged and Horta seconded = Mari Alkatiri is probably guilty of crimes against the state but any sentence would be commuted by parliament, according to Jose Ramos Horta.
All the allegations and subsequent requests included threats to dismiss the Government and dissolve Parliament by the President.
Xanana and Horta have not worked effectively to avert the crisis. Before the clashes at Fatu Ahi and Dili Xanana and Horta met with Alfredo where they it was understood that Alfredo was to continue to provide security at Aileu. It was also publicly proclaimed by Xanana that he was in constant contact with Salsinha and Alfredo, later all the rebels were to call Xanana their “Supreme Commander”, not adhering to Taur Matan Ruak or the Government.
Xanana’s speeches were also controversial. In one speech the President made clearly inflammatory connotations about the acts of the Timorese from the Eastern district and Western District during the struggle against occupation which resulted in the burning of Taibessi market.
Xanana then sent a video tape of a four corners report and a letter requesting for the Prime Minister’s resignation which he did not get. In a later meeting again the President did not get the Prime Minister’s resignation, a request which had not legal base apart from the video tape. At the end of this sorry episode for the President maybe out of frustration made a speech on the 22nd June 2006 attacking FRETILIN, its leadership and out of context to the current crisis. It appeared that the request for removal was more personal rather than in the interest of the country. The President bluntly said to the Prime Minister if you don’t resign the I will. The “people” including Major Tara and Railos, Fernando Lasama and PD with their 7 seat majority in parliament and a few thousand youthful looking protestors rallied behind the President demanding the immediate removal of the Prime Minister as this will be the solution to the security crisis.
The Prime Minister did resign so that President will not resign. The President and Horta were satisfied that the security situation was going to improve. However the exigencies still continued, not happy with the Prime Minister’s head they wanted the keys to the Government offices and Parliament. Threats were made towards dissolving the Parliament within the Constitution? Certainly not.
An important dates following the removal of the Prime Minister was 27 June when FRETILIN supporters amassed at Metinaro. On Wednesday 28 June, Supporters of the President who “peacefully earlier during the week protested along side the President went on a rampage across Dili burning homes of FRETILIN militants, attacked innocent IDP’s (refugees), and tried to burn the RTTL installations. The President failed to control his own supporters. The next day the mob would leave Dili, where FRETILIN entered. In two days of Peaceful protest, there was no attacks, no burnings, no violence even when confronted by provocateurs supporting the President.
Well the protests are over, the political issues are now being resolved behind close doors.
An election is looming.
O futuro de Timor como Estado soberano está ameaçado.
Há muito que a situação deixou de ser dramática, para se transformar numa tragicomédia... com episódios dignos de uma ópera bufa.
"E que dizer de Xanana Gusmão?
Foi um bom guerrilheiro e é um mau presidente. Cada século não produz mais do que um Nelson Mandela.
Ao ameaçar renunciar, criou um cenário de golpe de Estado constitucional, um atentado directo à democracia por que tanto lutou.
Um homem doente e mal aconselhado corre o risco de hipotecar o crédito que ainda tem junto do povo para abrir caminho a um processo que acabará por destruí-lo."
professor Boaventura Sousa Santos
na revista Visão desta semana
Esses professorezecos querem todos agora ser treinadores de bancada. O problema de Timor e que ha tao doutor e professor a cagar sentencas contra o PR tudo do razoavel conforto da distancia dos seus escritorios.. Enfim, a caravana vao passando...Ou seja, sao todos inconsequentes.
O mesmo que este blog. Isto e so mais para afogar as frustracoes!
Por isso você veio cá cagar a sua sentença, não é anónimo das 8:12:10 PM? Para afogar a frustação por afinal a golpaça, apesar dos 2000 e tal tropas australianas no terreno e da promoção mediática dos seus líderes de pacotilha e do "heroísmo" do PR e do laureado, ainda não ter dado os resultados esperados. Compreendo a sua frustação. É que isto de falar-se da real politik e carquejos até torna as coisas mais fáceis do que depois no terreno se verifica serem... e lá tiveram de chamar novamente o Vasconcelos! Frustrante, indeed!
MARGARIDA: As frustracoes sao vossas sra margaridazita porque esperneiam e gritam que o PR e isto ou aquilo e entretanto voces vao vendo os vossos a serem destrocados e alguns a espera de um bilhete de ida para a prisao.
Isso deve ser frustrante para VOCES e mais ninguem. De acordo com as vossas teorias os pro-Xananistas ate tem muito com que ficar contentes. O governo ate ja caiu so isso ja seria grande coisa. E dizem ate que este "golpe" ainda esta em curso e que o PR e agora quem manda. Porque e que haviam os seus apoiantes estarem agora frustrados? Frustrados estao voces e este blog e uma demonstracao clara da vossa magoa. era isto que queria dizer. Hahahaha......
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