Informa-se que esta Quinta-feira, dia 18 de Janeiro de 2007, pelas 19h30, o programa "Hanoin Lisuk" vai incidir sobre vários temas relativos às eleições dos Órgãos de Soberania, tendo por base as Leis Eleitorais recentemente aprovadas no Parlamento Nacional.
Este tema vai ser apresentado pelos seguintes oradores:
· Sr. Joaquim dos Santos, Deputado da Bancada Fretilin
· Sr. Faustino Cardoso Gomes, Presidente da CNE
· Sr. Tomás do Rosário Cabral, Director do STAE
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Ho respeito ami fo hatene ba ita boot sira hotu katak ohin loron Quinta-feira, 18 de Janeiro 2007, tuku 19h30 (tuku hitu ho balu kalan), Parlamentu Nasional sei fo sai husi televisaun (TVTL) iha programa "Hanoin lisuk", assunto nebe trata kona ba prosesso eleitoral iha Timor Leste tuir "Lei Eleitoral" nebe publika ona iha Jornal da República.
Sei halo apresentasaun ba tema ida ne'e maka:
· Sr. Joaquim dos Santos, Deputado Fretilin
· Sr. Faustino Cardoso Gomes, Presidente da CNE
· Sr. Tomás do Rosário Cabral, Director do STAE
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quinta-feira, janeiro 18, 2007
Programa de Televisão explica Lei Eleitoral - Parlamento Nacional
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Mensagem inicial - 16 de Maio de 2006
"Apesar de frágil, Timor-Leste é uma jovem democracia em que acreditamos. É o país que escolhemos para viver e trabalhar. Desde dia 28 de Abril muito se tem dito sobre a situação em Timor-Leste. Boatos, rumores, alertas, declarações de países estrangeiros, inocentes ou não, têm servido para transmitir um clima de conflito e insegurança que não corresponde ao que vivemos. Vamos tentar transmitir o que se passa aqui. Não o que ouvimos dizer... "
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Cheap Propaganda in East Timor
No political party in the world has never stoped using propaganda in their poilitical campaign, likewise, almost no government in the world never stoped using propoganda to frighten or to create a wrong alert for its own population.
Ramos Horta has proven the world that with false or fake propaganda he can manipulate the international community to trust him that all East Timorese opted for Independence while in fact, some 50.000 East Timorese who are still now in Australia and the other 10.000 Timorese who are still now staying in Portugal and another 150.000 East Timorese who are still taken refuge in Indonesia never opted for Independence. But the reality is that, with lies, false arguments, packed in a good propaganda stratey and delivery could be effective to deceive the world to believe that all East Timorese wanted to become independent.
Ramos Horta is the best man for Propaganda, but the most one is the Fretilin Party.
The news of today in Australia on East Timor broguht up the rocket launcher hold by Alfredo. This was a hot topic on this blog. And the blog moderator or owner is happy because the hot topic in this blog could attract the media. I am also happy because one of the blog that I like to read brought such an issue that became the icon for the Australian media. But one thing that I pitty of is that why we should relate the Lopes in Australia with the Lopez (Rui Lopez) in East Timor? Why we should keep protraying Rui Lopez and Fernando Lasama as linked to the Lopez in Australia?
If the weapon could end up in the hands of Alfredo, it is not the fault of Alfredo. It just shows the weakness of East Timor Security or East Timor Government under Alkatiri's leadership. If Alkatiri could order Rogerio Lobato to form militia gangs (although Alkatiri keep denying it) and arm them with weapons, it is logical that some of those weapons may end up in the hands of people like Railos or Alfredo.
Please ask Mari Alkatiri or his brother Achmad Alkatiri who was the official supplier of the weapons. Did they just buy the 8.000 weapons for the East Timor FDTL and Police force or they buy 8.000 and get some extras which is 5 or 10 anti-tank rockets?
Please also ask Mari Alkatiri and Achmad Alkatiri why the government bought 8.000 weapons, but the government only registered 4.000? Where is the whereabout of the other 4.000 weapons? I think the Portuguese government who provided money to buy those weapons may explain why they gave money to buy 8.000 weapons, but only 4.000 reached the hands of the government. Is the other 4.000 with Railos or is the rocket launcher in the hands of Alfredo Reinado is also included in the 4.000 missing weapons?
But here again we see how Fretilin is trying to use the 1975 style cheap Propaganda to deceive the people. They are now trying to point their fingers to Rui Lopez or Fernando Lasama.
For those of the readers who do not know who Rui Lopes and Fernando Lasama really are. I would try to ask you to respect these two people. The East Timor independence would have never been attained without the influence of these two key persons.
Let you all be known that it was Rui Lopez who protected Xanana in his bunker in Lahane for three years in cooperation with the Indonesian reformist Koppassus group who was anti-Suharto. It was Rui Lopez who drove Xanana in his Land Rover with the escort of Indonesian Koppassus to walk around Dili to meet Mario Carrascalao, the Bishop and take medical docters to visit Xanana who almost died in his bunker for acute Syphilis while dating Jorge Serano's young sister who was still under age. The East Timor people owe the Lopez family for his sacrifice and inteligene in cooperating with the Indonesian reformist Koppasus group to protect Xanana while the Alkatiri family like Achmad Alkatiri was cooperating with the Indonesian army to kill the East Timorese people just for unjust competition to gain military projects in East Timor.
For Fernando Lasama and his group, Fretilin should thank them, because it was Fernando Lasama - as the president of East Timor youth and student organization called Renetil - who started the clandestine line fiercefully against threat at gun point from the Indonesian army in Bali and around Indonesdia, while Mari Alkatiri and Anna Pessoa were even ashamed to attend a Fretilin meeting in Lisbon, Portugal.
Who was Rogerio Lobato for East Timor Independence. Rogerio was a criminal who was jailled for diamond and weapon trade in Angola which does not have any relationship at all with East Timor independence. Who was Roque Rodrigues? He was an unployee in Portugal who does not even have a fixed job for his life. How can he contribute to East Timor independence? His contribution was zero other than the strong cummunist theory that he holds and that he is now trying to brainwash Taur Matan Ruak with those false communist ideologies that even Russia and China has left and even Cuba and North Korea cannot survive.
To be brief, I am not a Fretilin member, I am just a Fitun Lotuk Lemorai who would never stop talking until Fretilin changes his flag not to be similar with the East Timor national Flag. By using a party flag similar to the Nation flag already shows that Fretilin tries to manipulate the people as if Fretilin is the same as the Nation. Not voting for Fretilin is the same as go against the country.
The other thing is that Fitun Lotuk Lemorai would never stop talking when FDTL does not stop using the name FALENTIL. Because Fretilin is just trying to fool the people as if FDTL as FALENTIL is still the armed wing of FRETILIN while in fact it should be not.
Fretilin has to ralize that as long as it does not change its flag, and as long as it does not restructure and change the FDTL name, then conflict would never stop in East Timor, because it was not Fretilin alone who fought for East Timor Independence but it was after CNRM and became CNRT that attracted people of other factions like UDT, APodeti and lastly the loosers of pro-integration side to support East Timor to fight for independence. But what is unfair now is that Fretilin alone proclaims itself to be the winner. This is the root of the conflict.
FRETILIN you change your flag and wipe out FALENTIL from FDTL or we all will never live in peace in East Timor. Stop portraying people like Lopes and Lasama as enemies of the nation, because you will loose the support from the real people who ever fought for East Timor independence.
Taur Matan Ruak if wants to become the president of East Timor should stop be influnced and fed by the empty promises of comunism from Roque Rodrigues. Taur Matan Ruak would be a successful President if he can kick out the eternal opportunist like Ramos Horta who always side with the winning group and dissosiate himself from cummunist ideologies. Embrace the church, embrage the pro-integration minority and influencial group and you will have East Timor in your hand peacefully and be honored the real leader and hero of East Timor, not like an unbalanced president like Xanana or a cruel prime minister like Alkatire who wants to arm militias to kill his opponent groups.
May God be with you Fretilin, not communism, because I have had enough experience from the Fretilin communism in 1975 (o nian hau nian ita nian hotu. O nia fen hau nia fen ita nia fen hotu. Feton belo hola fali nan, oan bele hola fali inan). Fretilin labele fahe tan droga ba jovens sira hanessan sira halo iha 1975. Lalika promete buat bosok ten barak hanessan iha ailaran nebe debe ema nia osan pois dehan atu selu e too agora nein bintes metan ida Fretilin bele selu. Lalika promete tan dehan Rusia ka China ka atu lori fos ho hahan seluk atu hatun iha ailaran quando povo mate hamalaha iha ailaran quando Fretilin rasik laiha forsa atu hola hahan ba sira nia an rasik.
I think that is all from me for today. Long life East Timor if does not want to become a happy part as the protectorate of Australia.
by Fitun Lotuk Lemorai hanesan berliku ailaran tuan kanta lemo-lemorai. O atu rona ka larona hau kanta nafatin e hau fo roman nafatin hanesan fitun lotuk iha lalehan (NOTE: Fitun Lotuk in Tetun actually has a derogatory meaning. It means - Half crazy - out of mind)
1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Genocide in East Timor by Indonesia?
Dear camarada that gave comments to my posting. Your pointing fingers to Indonesia for the figure of 200.000 people that died in East Timor from 1975 to 1980-ies does not only show that you are the one who do not know anything at a ll about the cause of those deaths, or you are fooled by what I discribed as successful propaganda by Ramos Horta in deceiving the international community or you are just a member of Fretilin or Falentil who committed those crimes and still try to hide your crime by pointing your fingers to others.
If comandante Aquiles is still alive, he will tell you why he was killed by the Falentil radical wing. Or you can ask Paulino Gama why he has to surrender himself to the Indonesian army, or you should ask the live witness - the first President of ET - Xavier do Amaral, why he was jailed by Falintil in an animal cage in the mountains. You should ask the international red cross who cared the thousands of East Timores who died in Hera and Metinaro for lack of food when descending from the mountains. Did you know the history of the way how people are killed in the jungle if they were found to get a spoon of Indonesian sugar or rice? They are arbitrarily killed without any judicial due process. You might born after 1980-ies and dont know all this dark history of Fretilin crime.
Can you ask your father how Fretilin forced people to go to the mountains in 1975? Can you ask Xanana how the Falentil wanted to protect themselves by putting civilians in the frontline of the battle? Can you ask if your father can show you an Indonesian mass grave of the massacre by Indonesian army. At least, I myself cannot point you any mass grave of massacre by Indonesian army, but I defenitely can show you the three mass graves of massacre by Fretilin in Aileu. I can even show where they are. I can even tell you the names of the places: Saboria, Aissiri Moun and Manu Tane (Mantane).
Even now I can even invite you to come with me to Baucau to meet Commandante Aquilies wife who, now, still keep asking Xanana where is the grave of his beloved husband comandante Aquiles.
My comrade, let's stop pointing fingers to others, let´s all ask the forgiveness to those peoples family who we killed innocently by putting them as human shields to face the Indonesian army, let us ask for the forgivness of the thousands of people who died for hunger in the mountains and valeys of East Timor for our lack of possibility to provide them proper food.
Let us now concentrate on our election, let us listen to the voice of the people and not pointing them guns when they voice their protest. Let´s not use force when the opposition group sounds their opinios, for all us, have the right of life and to voice our opinions freely and democratically.
It is so small-minded to depict someone as pro-Indonesia or pro-Australia when he/she tells the truth about Fretilin and Falintil crime. Wake up my brother/sister, no actual leader in East Timor whose hands is not stained with blood whether you like it or not. Xanana did order to kill his own uncle in the jungle - it was the rule of jungle. Francisco Xavier did order for the massacre of the leaders of the opponent political parties in Aileu - it was the rule of no government in power. We allege Indonesia for the massacre of 200.000 people, but who can point a mass grave by Indonesian army in East Timor?
Let us not commit the same mistake when we took witnesses for Human Rights violations in the Indonesian court, and when these witnesses tesified, none said they only heard but not seen directly.
LAW IS LAW, YOU TELL WHAT YOU SEE AND NOT WHAT YOU HEARD. I am affraid that when we take the case of the 200.000 deaths to the international court and the indictment will be against Falentil and not Indonesia.
1:13 AM
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