quarta-feira, outubro 11, 2006

Aust not to blame for coup: Ramos Horta

ABC/AFP - Wednesday, October 11, 2006. 5:04am (AEST)

East Timor's Prime Minister, Jose Ramos Horta, says reports Australia played a role in a coup against his predecessor, Mari Alkatiri, are nonsense.

Dr Alkatiri was forced from office in late May when rebel leader Alfredo Renaido led fellow military police into the mountains behind Dili.

The rebels refused to surrender until Dr Alkatiri resigned.

SBS television has aired a report claiming two English-speaking foreigners and two Timorese soldiers approached senior Timorese officers and encouraged them to mount a coup.

Dr Ramos Horta has told ABC TV's Lateline program the report is not credible.

"As I say, absolute nonsense," he said. "To immediately point the finger at Australia or any other neighbour of ours is just plain wrong. "I would have known and I know there was no involvement from Australia or the US or Indonesia in our troubles."

Dr Ramos Horta says he does not know why Australia would have wanted Dr Alkatiri out of the leadership.

"I was a member of Alkatiri's cabinet," he said. "He was the one who successfully secured two important agreements, making us financially independent, and he was praised for that so I don't see what reason Australia would have for wanting him out."

Meanwhile, the International Crisis Group has released a report saying East Timor will need to tackle security sector reform to get back on track after the unrest that culminated in Dr Alkatiri's resignation.

The tiny four-year-old nation descended into chaos in April and May after the Government's dismissal of more than a third of its armed forces.

The troops had deserted their barracks complaining of discrimination.

Protests degenerated into battles between rival factions of the military and police and rival street gangs.

The ICG puts the toll at more than 30 people.

More than 3,200 peacekeepers, mainly Australians, were deployed to restore security.

"Resolving the crisis will depend on comprehensive security sector reform and better oversight of the courts," a report from the Brussels-based think tank said.

"But with elections due in May 2007, it will also depend on reform within the dominant party, Fretilin, and on the willingness of key political actors to sit down together and agree on solutions."

Robert Templer, ICG's Asia program director, says the "crisis escalated in part because there were no checks on individuals with personal interests and private power bases".

"The way out is through institution-building precisely so that the actions of individuals will not carry so much weight," he said.

Historical causes

The report says the roots of the crisis lie partly in tensions within Fretilin before and during Indonesia's occupation of East Timor.

The East Timorese voted for independence from Indonesia in 1999.

"Ideological and political disputes in the 1980s and 1990s, particularly between Fretilin central committee members and [now President] Xanana Gusmao, then commander of the guerrilla army Falintil, carried over into the post-conflict government," it said.

The report says another seed was planted when Falintil fighters were demobilised in 2000.

A new Defence Force absorbed some but left others unemployed and resentful as the international community focused on the creation of a new police force.

"That many of the police, vetted and retrained, had worked for the Indonesian administration, was more salt in the wounds of the ex-fighters," the report said.

The ICG says rivalry between the largely powerless Mr Gusmao, who is committed to democratic pluralism, and a ruling party with authoritarian tendencies is another factor.

Lobato criticised

Former interior minister Rogerio Lobato, who now faces weapons distribution charges, has been singled out by the ICG for his manipulation of the tensions.

"As interior minister, he controlled the police force, encouraged rivalry with the Defence Force, most of whom were personally loyal to Xanana Gusmao, and created specialised police units that effectively became a private security force," the ICG said.

"The police under him were in charge of law and order, border patrol, riot control and immigration.

"It was never clear what the role of the Defence Force was."

The report comes ahead of the release of a UN-appointed Independent Special Commission of Inquiry, which is expected later this month.

The inquiry will likely name those behind the worst incidents of violence this year.

The ICG report warns that the release of the UN report could trigger demands for instant justice which Dili courts are ill-equipped to provide.


6 comentários:

Anónimo disse...

Unfortunately we will never know because the UN's COI only covers the period after April 2006.

The former US Ambassador was one of the men who paid the F-FDTL a visit to discuss the removal of Fretilin's government. But Joseph Grover Rees has been replaced now and Dili has a new US ambassador.

Anónimo disse...

...He was the one who successfully secured two important agreements, making us financially independent, and he was praised for that..

Horta maybe this was the reason Australia wanted Alkatiri out. Alkatiri was undermining Australias interest in the oil negotiations. Consider the fact that Alkatiri did not stop at the Oil sharing agreements and even going as far as wanting to pipe the gas to Timor. Obviously this would of resulted in more income for Timor and Australia losing out again.

There are many reasons within the context of Oil negotiations as to why Australia wanted Mari out.

Horta now has until 20 May to finalise all Timor Oil negotiations and thus satisfying Australia at the expense of Timor Leste.

Anónimo disse...

Never ask the men who benefited from Australia about the opinon of "If Australia was behind this". Ramos Horta was "Manutalin of the Primeira Dama" and he of course always wanted some rewards from the "BANANA President". Some times people like Ramos Horta just justify what many Timorese believe that one never should trust a "Mistico". They have nothing to loose even Timor-Leste has to be sold to others.

Anónimo disse...

Judging a person because he is Mestico or Arab or Chinese is racist Timor doesn't need racism.

I dont trust Horta because of the way he personally is not because he is a mestico.

Anónimo disse...

Without any shadow of doubt, we all agree with the fact that Horta was and still is one of the best Diplomat East Timor ever had; we all agree that his contribution in East Timor long and hard struggle of Resistence in the Dipomatic Front is admirable; we all agree and acknowledge the fact that with his passion to this Nobel Cause of the East Timor Struggle, Ramos Horta had achieved more than Half a Million US Dollar to his pocket and the Honour of the Nobel Peace Prize that he is carrying around with him in his forehead.

The World is watching him (Dr. Ramos Horta) in his every single movement, in his every single action to see if He really and still plays his role as a Nobel Peace Prize.

For this Laureate, being a PM or a PR of the small and unstable East Timor is just a step stone towards the ever more ambitious position: to be a World Leader, to be the next Kofi Anaan.

He is cautious in his speach as FRETILIN already remind him that whatever he said or do has to be in accordance with FRETILIN guidances as well as he is very cautious in his prevision of the future by playing the game of " I do not want, but if ....." and naively push the new generation as he did along in this crisis by proposing Arsenio Bano or Rui Araujo to replace Alkatiri and He ended up gain the result - He became The Prime Minister.

He knows so well the filosofy of pushing this new generation that can figth for him to achieve what He wants.

So, we know that seven months is not enough to lay down any concrete plan for East Timor Development and as he never had any plan at all for East Timor Development, cleverly, he knew how stop the disclosure of the information that He does not have.

I admire this guy for his ability to play the role as Peace Fighter, Peace Keeper and to become the Man of Peace. Watch out for what is coming up in the next few months...

I still believe that only a true love to the Maubere People can fight for the Development of Big Projects in East Timor that can be a "multiply factor" to the economical and social life of the Timorese People.

"Maubere word" used to be a regular vocabulary of Horta's everyday life, but now He no longer needs it and it is convenient for him not to mention again in favour of His neo-liberalisme Policies - Profit to the big companies.
The Maubere People does not have enough Money as this Big Companies to support Him to his next Post (Kofi Anaan Position), as we all know.

We have to be aware of the fact that as the result of many mistakes done by the UN with the connivence of Horta as well, East Timor is now on the verge of a Failed State and soon would be advised to be a Protectorate of a Foreign Country.

Quarta-feira, Outubro 11, 2006 7:41:58 PM

Anónimo disse...

Ramos Horta: Os Australianos não devem ser acusados do golpe
ABC/AFP – Quarta-feira, Outubro 11, 2006. 5:04am (AEST)

O Primeiro-Ministro de Timor-Leste, José Ramos Horta, diz que os relatos de que a Austrália teve um papel no golpe contra o seu antecessor, Mari Alkatiri, são disparates.

O Dr Alkatiri foi forçado a sair do cargo no fim de Maio quando o líder amotinado Alfredo Reinado liderou os colegas da polícia militar para as montanhas por detrás de Dili.

Os amotinados recusaram-se a renderem-se até o Dr Alkatiri ter resignado.

A televisão SBS emitiu uma reportagem afirmando que dois estrangeiros de língua Inglesa e dois soldados Timorenses contactaram dois oficiais Timorenses de topo e encorajaram-nos a montar um golpe.

O Dr Ramos Horta disse no programa Lateline da ABC TV que a reportagem não é credível.

"Como digo, (é um) disparate absoluto," disse. "Apontar imediatamente o dedo à Austrália ou a qualquer outro vizinho nosso é simplesmente um erro. "Eu sabê-lo-ia e eu sei que não houve envolvimento da Austrália, dos USA ou da Indonésia nos nossos problemas."

O Dr Ramos Horta diz que não sabe porque é que a Austrália teria querido o Dr Alkatiri fora da liderança.

"Fui um membro do gabinete de Alkatiri," disse. "Foi ele que garantiu o sucesso de dois acordos importantes, tornando-nos financeiramente independentes, e ele foi louvado por isso por isso não vejo porque razão é que a Austrália quereria que ele saísse."

Entretanto, o International Crisis Group emitiu um relatório dizendo que Timor-Leste precisará de empreender a reforma do sector da segurança para entrar nos carris depois do desassossego que culminou na resignação do Dr Alkatiri.

A pequena nação de quatro anos de idade caiu no caos em Abril e Maio depois do Governo ter demitido mais do que um terço das suas forças armadas.

As tropas desertaram dos seus quartéis queixando-se de discriminação.

Os protestos degeneraram em batalhas entre facções rivais dos militares e dos polícias e gangs de rua rivais.

O ICG põe a contagem (de mortes) em mais de 30 pessoas.

Mais de 3,200 tropas, a maioria delas Australianas, foram despachadas para restaurar a segurança.

"Resolver a crise dependerá duma reforma compreensiva do sector da segurança e de melhor fiscalização dos tribunais," disse um relatório do think tank com base em Bruxelas.

"Mas com eleições previstas em Maio de 2007, dependerá também das reformas no seio do partido no poder, a Fretilin, e da vontade de actores políticos chave para se sentarem e acordarem nas soluções."

Robert Templer, o director do programa da Ásia do ICG, diz que a "crise escalou em parte porque não houve controlo sobre indivíduos com interesses pessoais e bases de poder privado ".

"A saída é através da construção de instituições de modo que as acções de indivíduos não tenham tanto peso," disse.

Causas históricas

O relatório diz que as raízes da crise então parcialmente nas tensões no seio da Fretilin antes e durante a ocupação de Timor-Leste pela Indonésia.

Os Timorenses votaram pela independência da Indonésia em 1999.

"Disputas ideológicas e políticas nos anos 1980s e 1990s, particularmente entre membros do comité central da Fretilin e [o agora Presidente] Xanana Gusmão, então comandante do exército de guerrilha Falintil, transmitiram-se ao governo do póst-conflito," disse.

O relatório diz que outra semente foi plantada quando os lutadores das Falintil foram desmobilizado em 2000.

Uma nova Força de Defesa absorveu alguns mas deixou outros desempregados e ressentidos ao mesmo tempo que a comunidade internacional se focava na criação de uma nova força de polícia.

"Que muitos dos polícias, checados e re-treinados, tivessem trabalhado para a administração Indonésia, foi mais sal nas feridas dos ex-lutadores," disse o relatório.

O ICG diz que a rivalidade entre o largamente sem poderes Sr Gusmão, que está comprometido com o pluralismo democrático, e um partido no poder com tendências autoritárias é um outro factor.

Lobato criticado

O antigo ministro do interior Rogério Lobato, que enfrenta agora acusações por distribuição de armas, foi apontado pelo ICG pele sua manipulação de tensões.

"Como ministro do interior, controlou a força da polícia, encorajou a rivalidade com a Força de Defesa, a maioria dos quais eram pessoalmente leais com Xanana Gusmão, e criou unidades de polícia especializadas que efectivamente se tornaram uma força de segurança privada," diz o ICG.

"A polícia sob seu controlo estava encarregada da lei e da ordem, do patrulhamento da fronteira, do controlo de motins e da imigração.

"Nunca ficou claro qual era o papel da Força da Defesa."

O relatório saiu à frente da emissão do da Comissão Especial Independente de Inquérito da ONU, que é esperado mais tarde este mês.

O inquérito provavelmente indicará os nomes dos que estiveram por detrás dos piores incidentes de violência este ano.

O relatório do ICG avisa que a emissão do relatório da ONU pode desencadear pedidos de justiça instantânea que os tribunais de Dili estão mal preparados para prestarem.


Todas as traduções de inglês para português (e também de francês para português) são feitas pela Margarida, que conhecemos recentemente, mas que desde sempre nos ajuda.

Obrigado pela solidariedade, Margarida!

Mensagem inicial - 16 de Maio de 2006

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